Teachnet meeting
Paris
October 2010
Tuesday
19/10/2010
Presentation of achieved tasks
from different partners
Poland
●
Short
presentation what they have done since last summer meeting,
●
A
decision to publish a book which contain texts and photos,
●
They
have scanned photos (simple methods = press the button)
●
Little
more advanced group, long courses
Finland
●
We
have a blog, all presentations
●
Mobile
phones different in different countries, Germany not so common
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A lot
of mobile phones, common to have even elderly people
Germany
●
Cafe Anschluss, a meeting place every week
● Meeting
every week, max. 50 person
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Don't
want to use internet, fixed lines common,
● Mobile
expensive, 29 eur/month plus
●
A lot
of prepaid cards, inexpensive within the provider, expensive go tover
●
Students
are teaching mobile, 16-19 years old, practicing for them
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Germany
/ Selb got money from european
representative
●
25
persons, by bus to the hotel, short round in the city, the second day and the
third day visit to the european parliament, how it
works, in the evening dinner, next day bavarian
group, excellent trip
●
France
●
Methods,
should they be the same or not
●
Cultural
problems to use mobile, becaming cheaper
●
Maybe
we could make a Skype course, one must be a chairman, perhaps video meeting is
not possible (too many participants)
Conclusions:
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Different
methods in different countries,
●
Changing of methods between parties and countries
recommended,
● Different
applications in different countries
●
Methods
always written in english, local applications always
using local language
●
For
example Poland: the book is in polish, in Germany in German
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Trust:
elderly people don't trust internet, they want stamps, paper bills etc.
●
Many
people, even not retired, are outside internet, someone has decided even not to
become familiar with internet, computers and mobile phones
●
Wide
differences between european coutries
in these areas
●
Advanced
people can teach people with no skills or
people with basic skills (mobile phones, computers, internet)
Wednesday 20.10.2010
Meeting in Medem, Paris
Present: Michaela H, Maria J., X, Pirkko Saavalainen, Marja-Liisa Toivanen, Jussi Saavalainen, Matti Tossavainen, Jean-Michelle, Francoise Pettelat
Discussion Items: Final report
- MH everyone write a short list, not separate reports
- MJ MH writes first draft
- ToDos: MH deadline
31.12.2010 (a proposal)
- everyone writes what they
have done (french lines) with explanations
MJ
- own goals respect to project goals
- how environment effects to
goals (?)
- computers for well being of
olderly people should be one targets
....
A problem:
- ground computing vs. cloud
computing - older people has (partly) accustomed to use PC now they have to
learn cloud computing
- cloud computing is coming:
there are several free tools
- prices of internet
connection may be high in some countries preventing cloud computing of elderly
people
MT
- we should propose to older
people how to use internet, what it contains what are possibilities of internet
etc.
- we cannot decide what they
should do with internet: we have to open their eyes
J-MD
- opportunities of internet
are wide: songs with written text, a group of older persons singing together
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Next meeting in
Krakow 27 - 28 -29 morning of April 2011